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I will not go to Sunday Mass at certain parishes, including my own, if the spirit of the occasion is that you normally see at liberal protestant services. I’m trying to figure out how to do it without starting a war. I may speak too strongly in the sentence you cite. The BANQUET aspect WAS WITH THE HEAVENLY CHURCH. Why is that??? Note: Where a number is shown after NT in the example, it refers to the reading’s place in the ordered list of possible options. If the Holy Catholic Church is indeed the Church that Christ established, THEN IT WILL MOST CERTAINLY BE UNDER SATANIC ATTACK ON A CONSTANT BASIS, and once that attack has been defeated by Christ and His Church, there will be another one, a new attack for a new generation. Though I am summarizing a longer article I wrote on the matter which makes more distinctions. In contrast, the verses show in italics in the passage below (1 Corinthians 11:20-2 and 27-32) are never used in the revised lectionary. Nevertheless, these prayers at the foot of the altar continued to be conducted in the 1965 Missal. Compiling a list of bracketed passages would be a most interesting exercise. It was a time great turmoil. I find (having spent a number of years attending both forms on Sundays) that it doesn’t stick in the mind the same way. It’s even worse than you think. The Mass of the early Christians was CONSCIOUSLY BASED ON THE TEMPLE ARRANGEMENT OF THE PLACE OF WORSHIP. look at the eastern Divine Liturgy the priest controls the service in the latin rite the women or choir controls the service and look this Puis x women on the alter canon law 1917. in 1755 St. Benedict xiv said it is evil for a women ot service a priest on the alter. He did not follow Vat II concerning the liturgy, whose documents appear diliberately vague. How do you feel about hand-holding during the Our Father? Finally, I’ll tell you about a “different” Mass that I have attended a number of times. Then post-1970 the N.O. While it is interesting to look back at it again, however, this much must be said: If 1970 is not really the “Mass of Vatican II,” neither is 1965. In the new lectionary, the readings for each of the three years of the A, B, C cycle for Sundays are mostly taken from the Synoptic Gospels. I realize she has tripped and been knocked to her knees by the devil, but now Jesus is helping her back to her feet again and she will move gloriously down the aisles of history to meet her Bridegroom. Doing something twice does not mean the first did not count. They young families want them. These verses were probably omitted because they fall under the category of difficult verses, which are mentioned in the General Introduction to the Lectionary in sections 76 and 77: It is not my job or my inclination to criticize the revised lectionary. Suppose that I go further and point out that aside from the points just mentioned, most of what the council said was (after the pattern of many recent ecclesiastical documents) so much air through the engine, just empty, rambling dicta that is insusceptible of commanding either assent or rejection. 24 And giving thanks, broke and said: Take ye and eat: This is My Body, which shall be delivered for you. “the smoke of Satan has entered…” some say he meant the sudden fall in seminarians. I’m a professional violinist, have been concertmaster of 4 orchestras, and currently conduct one. The 1965 missal was actually radical in nature. The Church has very beautifully – and truthfully – called for serious attention due to the matter of adult faith formation! It is permitted, but not dictated, true? 2. Learning how she was “shoved aside” in so many parishes, and no longer having May Crownings, etc, was one of the most painful experiences and hardest things to understand, when She helped bring me back, with her Miraculous Medal. See my post directly below – “calendar” was typo on my part – I meant “lectionary.”. I think that two important references – apart from missals – are Jungmann’s Mass of the Roman Rite which provides extensive historical background and Marini’s A Challenging Reform which provides material on the broad international consultation that was the process employed by Cardinal Lecaro’s commission, of which Bugnini was the secretary. I agree with your point about pride – very much. Are they opposing an entire ecumenical council? The celebrant then bowed deeply and recited the Confiteor (in the vernacular or in Latin). Index Lectionum Council). We had an old German pastor who did everything by the book; so it seemed seamless when the changes came. I saw the Elvis/Priest video. Cardinal Maradiaga’s “revelation” in Santa Clara that irreversible changes are on the agenda. For those who are dissatisfied with the 1962 revisions it allows for a rethinking of the reform of the Rites (even a reincorporation of items lost at that time). But we must exclude the possibility that the pope, or any bishop, can utterly abrogate or even discard large portions of an ancient rite of the Church. Some of it? Vat 2. It seems at least some priests nowadays are restoring a true beauty to liturgy and worship, examining what we have now, and like Msgr. None of it? In 1 Corinthians 11:27, Paul writes that if anyone eats the bread or drinks the cup of the Lord in an unworthy manner, he will be guilty of the body and blood of the Lord.11, As another commentator has written, for the Jews to be guilty of someone’s body and blood was to be a murderer. I will only recall three points: 1. above I am referring to the Novus Ordo Mass. (Just a little description of the head-spinning modern design) This woman knelt in front of the Tabernacle with her arms extended in the form of a cross. Thus we see that the main difference in the “prayers at the foot of the Altar” was the omission of the fuller verses of Psalm 42 and the provision that the texts could be conducted in the vernacular (with the exception of the private prayers of the priest which remained only in Latin). is this: when I was young, at the requiem mass, three candles stood on either The following summary of the differences between the two lectionaries for the Extraordinary and Ordinary Form is based on the “Historical Overview” page found at Fr. Add then the many versions, rites and calendars of the Eastern Church and there is just no getting around the immense diversity. Why is the Catholic population decreasing in numbers? I think you are right in proposing 1965 as a more ideal example of what the Council intended. My own memory is that Mass facing the people was introduced widely beginning in about 1967. Note to readers. Since the Mass doesn’t change at the local parish, despite the pleas of John Paul II (Ecclesia de Eucharistia n47ff, which nobody listened to) and the encouragement of Benedict XIV, then (such people begin to believe) maybe there’s something behind the paranoia after all. Monsignor Pope. The 1965 Missal provided approved English translations of the Collects of the 1962 Missal that were quite accurate. By the time I graduated grammar school in 1968, the vernacular had replaced Latin and there were years of experimentation that culminated in the nadir of the “Hootenanny Mass”. Matthew’s Gospel was assigned to year A, Mark’s to year B, and Luke’s to year C. Readings from the Gospel of John are assigned during Lent, Holy Week, and Eastertide during every year. Missale Romanum (Liturgical Readings in the Roman Missal prior to the Second Vatican Council). If either the 1962 EF or the 1970 OF is to be replaced by the 1965 Mass, should it not be the OF Mass that is replaced? The Veni sanctificator was not yet dropped. So glad you wrote this piece, Msgr. And so, I began to study. I say this because when I received First Holy Communion, I received on the tongue, on my knees at the altar rail, and at all subsequent school masses, I was required to cover my head with a beanie or a veil.

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