That’s when it starts wobbling or running erratically. Find a tough cartridge for one of the most prized and toughest hooved big game animals around. .648 in the 175-grain .284 platform, .625 in the 142-grain .264 caliber) will keep more than 1,500 f-p to 600 yards. LOL, yeah well i change my mind twice a day. Think long and hard about bullets. It sends the brain the oxygen it requires. is better with the 200 gr. Knockdown power, Taylor knockout formulas, etc. You can join the Ron Spomer Outdoors community on Patreon. But if you shot a 142-grain .284 bullet in the 28 Nosler, it’s recoil would match that of the 26 Nosler pushing that bullet weight. As you rightly say, a wounded deer can travel an awful long way in seconds, often not giving a chance for follow-up shots. But the animal is “out of it” when blood pressure drops to a minimum functioning level. Wise choice! Sadly, these days many hunters, wherever in the World they hunt, choose their bullet based on price, not quality and rely on the erroneous concept of fast follow-up shots to counter a bad first shot. At some distance even the 28 Nosler is going as slow as the 7x57mm Mauser, at which point — if they’re pushing the same bullet — impact performance would be identical. Typically a Barnes TTSX one or two steps down in weight from an equal cup-and-core, lead-filled bullet will penetrate as well or better. The 26 Nosler (H2O capacity 93-grains) would be next in line, and then the 28 Nosler with similar H2O capacity as the 26 Nosler, but the option to drive heavier bullets. I use the same powder charge for both. You must log in or register to reply here. Let’s dive into the deep end of this pool and figure it out. Kade, The 280 AI, 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler? Those that are blunt and squat with low B.C. Of more interest to you, Kale, seems to be terminal performance on game. Let know one ever say a Partition’s will not shoot a tiny group, they will…, Just can’t get my head around burning all that powder and having my brains kicked out for what 300 FPS? Killing a bull cleanly takes a good cartridge. They take solid lung/heart strikes and run as if stung by a 223 Remington. Want a long range Elk rifle 6-700 yards. The more arteries and blood vessels opened, the faster blood is drained from the animal’s cardiopulmonary system and the faster its loses consciousness. research. Then, after 3 to 10 seconds, they wobble and tip over. Terminal performance is more about placement, expansion, and penetration (to maximize tissue destruction) than punch or power. Adding numbers to the notorious caliber debate, 2020 Best Buck Mule Deer Photo Contest, sponsored by Kryptek, Vortex Diamondback HD 15×56 Binocular Review, Pope & Young Crowns the World Record Mule Deer, Creative Outdoors Montana Bow Sling Review, Mule Deer Muzzleloader Hunt: Film Release, Kodiak Island Gear with Daniel Horner and James Nash. The 28 Nosler adds considerable powder, thus energy, to push the same 175-grain bullet as the 280 AI. The answer might surprise you. A reader recently asked which was best for hunting. The very first load I tried shot fantastic. None are especially brutal kickers, but the one with the most powder and heaviest bullet will generate the most kick and downrange energy. This nudges MV (muzzle velocity) to 3,200 fps and increases recoil velocity to almost 18 fps and energy to nearly 40 f-p. someone has to make up my mind for me!!! I rank a 165-grain Barnes TTSX with a 180-grain Partition for penetration. It never hurts to try if the price is right. On the other hand, I witnessed another deer shot by a friend at 175 yards with a .243 Winchester with perfect placement of the shot and the phrase “struck by lighting” comes to mind.-not even a twitch of an ear, which is what the ethical hunter wants. Narrowed down to 2 calibers and will not consider any others...so please stick to my calibers of choice. It’s good to 400 yards or so and that’s as far as I have any business shooting under the best of circumstances. Push a 175-grain 2,800 fps in the 280 AI and it’ll recoil 14 fps with 24 foot-pounds of energy in an 8-pound rifle. Your support will contribute significantly to the information I can produce, so I thank you for it. Skip Steele, Sir Ron, Clinically, about 10 minutes after oxygen depletion, brain cells die. Just download the app and search Ron Spomer Outdoors. For every action there is an equal and opposite reaction; that is one of the physical laws of our universe. This website contains advertisements. Small Game – The Accommodating Cottontail. Miss small. In my velocity crazed youth, I once shot a smallish 4 pointer at about 30 yards (woods hunting) through the ribs with a .300 Weatherby stoked to the gills and it ran-not far, but it still ran. Reproduction in whole or in part without permission is prohibited. All rights reserved. As most of us have seen in countless videos of deer and elk being struck by bullets, animals as lightly framed as a 200-pound whitetail can absorb 3,000 to 4,000 f-p energy from magnum cartridges and run off. Remington is still making the brass, they are only selling it as loaded rounds though. Always exercise due diligence before purchasing any product or service. Much better to have a very accurate rifle that you’re really good with than to be concerned with how much horsepower your gun has. Heck, no game animal is walking away from a solid hit in the vitals from ANY of these. As far as resell value, that would be the last thing I would think about. Having a gun built. Isn't the 28 Nosler going to be very close to the recoil of the 300 RUM? A fast, flat-shooting cartridge/bullet that minimizes wind deflection can help you do that. I measure the length every load but usually only trim every other. You should not rely solely on information contained in this email to evaluate the product or service being endorsed. You WILL lose money on it if you decide to sell. As for kinetic energy, all have more than enough. Is it bad or worth getting? OK but this your last question on these calibers. Patreon is a way to help fund RSO content by donating as little as $5 each month. But emphasizing punch over placement — or expecting a bigger thump to compensate for poor placement — is not a winning formula. Field & Stream may receive financial compensation for products purchased through this site. Which gives you, the patron, more of the information and entertainment you enjoy. The brass was new and was mic'd out before loading. Whichever you choose will lose money. Recoil aside what is the best for medium to large sized game? Outstanding Read, as always… I’ll take that Strata off your hands if it needs a home – one fine rig…, My favorite; 280 AI, 150 grain Partition with shoulder placement- DRT – no blood trail to worry about.. Aim small. I have always had a thing for .284 bullets though. I also recommend shooting remington brass as I have found nosler brass to be to soft which causes accuracy issues as well. 28 Nosler, pushing a Berger 195 EOL at 3140 fps (RE33 powder). A Bonnier Corporation Company. I would go with the 300 RUM for sure. I get about 7 loads before the necks split on them, sometimes a few more than that. Whether you choose 280 AI, 26 Nosler, 28 Nosler, here’s wishing you the best of luck, Kade. So, the 280 AI with case capacity of around 65-grains water (varies by bullet seating depth) would generate the least muzzle energy and the least recoil. I've tried lighter bullets but have been disappointed with the accuracy, not to mention the B.C.
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