During World War I, Walker had won the Distinguished Service Cross for his leadership defending on a river bank against an attacking force and knew, intimately, the factors that would lead to either success or failure. The date and location of his death, and the Company and Division make me wonder if he was involved in the "Lost Battalion" battles. Clark, however, was never called to testify. “I do not recall of ever having read in military history where a frontal attack across an unfordable river in the face of an organized position along the opposite shore has ever been successful.”. THAT GUY THAT GUY Members; 1,330 posts; Location: Somewhere in the South; Posted October 25, 2017. If I need to do a FOIA request to get that I can do it. Editor's Note: You can read Part I and Part II here. Thank you, Lisa, for that information. “I salute them for their charge and courage,” he continued, but “as for myself, I can only say that under the same circumstances I would have to do it over again.” That certainty is part of what motivated Walker to testify. The men of the 36th did not complain about Alexander’s orders to Clark. I feel that an investigation of incidents such as this attack that you are now discussing, by your committee, would serve to alert commandeers in the future that they will be called before a court of judgment, you may call it, and with the feeling that they may have to answer for their acts. DM1785. Request for Information: WWII 141st Infantry Regiment 36th Division. I believe that military commanders in high places have a responsibility to the relatives and friends of the men who are serving under them, as well as to the men themselves, and I feel that they should be capable of using good tactical judgment in order that they may reduce losses and at the same time accomplish the results desired. Walker had pointed out to Clark five times that there was another location, barely a mile and a half further up the river, where a crossing was very much possible, even with the other negative factors at play. Actively collecting anything from the C Company, 1st Battalion, 141st Infantry Regiment, 36th Infantry Division. ). 3. Join in if you dare! His statements were unambiguously wrong. Clark’s actions clearly did not represent “sound judgment,” and most assuredly the attacks had not the slightest effects on the Germans and thus no impact—positive or negative—on the Anzio operation. The 1st Battalion, 141st Infantry Regiment, 36th Division (of which Co A was a part) battled the 198th all the way from the Mediterranean landing site near Frejus - Calanque Antheor (BLUE BEACH) Operation DRAGOON, 15 August 1944; to the Alsacian plain at Sigolsheim, 9-10 December 1944. Headquarters Company and Anti-Tank Platoon 1st Battalion Headquarters Company Company A Company B Company C Company D 2nd Battalion Headquarters Company Company E Company F Company G Company H 3rd Battalion Headquarters Company Company I Company K Company L Company M Band Medical Detachment … Post Mar 24, 2015 #1 2015-03-24T23:59. Wartime commander of the 36th Infantry Division, Maj. Gen. Fred L. Walker, was to be the first witness to testify. (Adlai Stevenson to Harry Truman on discussing the pros and cons of dropping the, British Army 1939-1945 - World War II Tribute Video, Military Casualty Lists - The American War Library, http://www.texasmilitaryforcesmuseum.org/36division/archives.htm, http://www.ww2f.com/wwii-general/9799-36th-division-story-some-unique-info.html, http://www.ww2f.com/members/steve-schaeg.html, (You must log in or sign up to reply here. He was in Company K of the 141st Infantry Regiment of the 36th Division. Almost immediately upon return to Texas after the war, the survivors of the Rapido disaster from the 36th Infantry Division met in Brownsville, Texas to discuss their need for justice. Clark, however, was never called to testify. He enlisted 3 January 1944 and died 14 December 1944 in France. Can anybody advise me on where to find it? Daniel L. Davis is a retired U.S. Army colonel who served multiple tours in Afghanistan. Welcome to WWII Forums! 141st Infantry Regiment Back to the 36th Infantry Division. I am looking for information about Pfc Ralph G Broemsen. In fact, Gentlemen, this is the way I see this thing. The hearings were held before the House Committee on Military Affairs on March 18, 1946. The 141st AAR's are online. Subscribe to 141st Infantry Regiment, 36th Division Footer menu. pat.simpson, … The Most Heroic and Horrific Battle of World War II for the Texas 36th Infantry Division. Joined: Sep 15, 2009 Messages: 2 Likes Received: 0. And ive just found summit in search.. In their view, Gen. Mark Clark, the wartime commander of the 5th Army in Italy, had caused the unnecessary death and wounding of thousands of Texans from the 36th by his poor decisions at the Rapido. and the Lost Bn was earlier in the winter of 1944 then the date he was killed. Powered by Create your own unique website with customizable templates. A discussion area for Texas history enthusiasts, Moderators:pstickle.texasmilitaryforcesmuseum, AustinAl, pstickle, indybaby. I am trying to locate an official roster of the members of the Lost Battalion of WWII (i.e., A/1/141 Inf/36th ID). Get … by Daniel L. Davis Follow @DanielLDavis1 on Twitter L Editor's Note: You can read Part I and Part II here . He enlisted 3 January 1944 and died 14 December 1944 in France. In his closing remarks Walker explained why he felt it important to examine the military disaster: Gentlemen, this is the way I see this thing. You did same in ww1.. Wasnt same bn was it? Clark had defended his actions, claiming that Churchill’s desire to land a large force at Anzio and theater commander Gen. Sir Herald Alexander’s order for Clark to press an attack from the south required him to make tough choices. Share this post. Registered User. Actively collecting anything from the C Company, 1st Battalion, 141st Infantry Regiment, 36th Infantry Division. Baker Company, 141st Infantry Regiment, 36th Division: HQ UNIT HISTORY EQUIPMENT UPCOMING EVENTS PHOTOS ENLIST! “While it is wholly understandable that Clark was under pressure to get the attack carried out on time because of its impact on the landings scheduled for Anzio,” Walker added, “it does no good whatsoever to continue the attack on time if the likelihood of failure is almost guaranteed.” This was the key point Clark failed to grasp—because it was not the only option Clark was presented for complying with Alexander’s orders. Wartime commander of the 36th Infantry Division, Maj. Gen. Fred L. Walker, was to be the first witness to testify. We directly support the repository at WW2.ORG, and several other worthwhile projects that add to the historical record. In fact, Walker said he felt “the directive was a proper one from a strategical point of view.” The problem, he said, “is that poor judgment was used in the selection of the point of attack and in the manner in which the directive of General Alexander” was applied tactically. He is a senior fellow with Defense Priorities. His warnings of failure prior to the attack on the Rapido River in January 1944 were borne out, in precise detail. from September 25, 1944 to his death on December 14, 1944. Follow him on Twitter @DanielLDavis1. I knew id responded to similar last year... You yanks.. Dont you use carrier pigeons or carry a torch? Can anybody advise me on where to find it? Justice for the men of the 36th whose lives had been sacrificed for no purpose, for the survivors who had to live with the knowledge of the truth, and the family members of the fallen who would suffer the rest of their lives were given little consideration. They will be a little more cautious, a little more considerate, and a little more capable. Eisenhower felt it wasn’t necessary. Wikimedia Commons, © Copyright 2020 Center for the National Interest All Rights Reserved, Eventually they decided they would draft a resolution among themselves. It is taken from the book, This website uses cookies for functionality, analytics and advertising purposes as described in our, Looking for information: Wallace Everett, 141st Infantry Regiment, Request for Information: WWII 141st Infantry Regiment 36th Division, Company A, Request for Information: WWII 141st Infantry Regiment 36th Division, http://texasmilitaryforcesmuseum.org/14 ... ries-1944/, http://www.texasmilitaryforcesmuseum.or ... /14183.htm. The date and location of his death, and the … They will be a little more cautious, a little more considerate, and a little more capable. Welcome to the WWII Forums! DM1785. The men of the 36th did not complain about Alexander’s orders to Clark. In his postwar memoirs, Clark wrote that the 36th Division “was a fine outfit” that performed a critical role at the Rapido. PFC Broemsen is my 2nd Cousin twice removed, related through my father's mother who is also a Broemsen. I don't think I need or want everything that could be in that IDPF, but I would like to have a copy of that After Action Report. Secretary of Army (then called Secretary of War) Robert Patterson conducted an investigation of his own and eventually concluded that “it is my conclusion that the action was a necessary one and that General Clark exercised sound judgment in planning it and ordering (the attack on the Rapido).” While the casualties “are to be greatly regretted,” he continued, “the heroic action and sacrifices of the Thirty-sixth Division undoubtedly drew the Germans away from our landings at Anzio during the critical hours of the first foothold, thus contributing in major degree to minimizing the casualties in that undertaking and to the firm establishment of the Anzio beachhead.”. . Company K is part of 3rd Bn. Secretary of Army (then called Secretary of War) Robert Patterson conducted an investigation of his own and, Daniel L. Davis is a retired U.S. Army colonel who served multiple tours in Afghanistan. Clark had defended his actions, claiming that Churchill’s desire to land a large force at Anzio and theater commander Gen. Sir Herald Alexander’s order for Clark to press an attack from the south required him to make tough choices. The final chapter of a three-part series. . Co A 1st Bn 141st Infantry Regiment, 36th Infantry Div, "The Lost Battalion" Discussion in 'WWII General' started by pat.simpson, Sep 15, 2009. pat.simpson recruit. He is a senior fellow with Defense Priorities. Eventually they decided they would draft a resolution among themselves which termed the battle of the Rapido River which would “go down in history as one of the colossal blunders of the Second World War.” Through the Texas state Senate, they petitioned the U.S. Congress to investigate the matter to gain justice for their losses and ensure no future commander would make such grievous mistakes. During the congressional hearings of March 1946 Walker and three other veterans of the 36th Division explained these critical points as members of the House and Senate listened. ABMC honors the services of overseas U.S. Armed Forces by maintaining and promoting America's overseas commemorative … “In that area,” Walker explained, “tanks could follow infantry effectively. The Congress’ inaction and the secretary’s white-washing of the matter would be one final wound inflicted on the survivors of the most heroic, horrific battle of World War II for the Texas 36th Infantry Division. 36th Infantry Division : 37th Infantry Division : 38th Infantry Division [ 39th Infantry Division - Did not exist during WWII ] 40th Infantry Division . As a matter of fact, later on, the troops of the Thirty-fourth Division made a successful attack in that area.”. 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